1640,i will be going against the tide here alittle(guy's don't burn me :lol: ).i bought a pro hunter frame($400) then a .45 28 twist barrel for it and it shoot's great.now is not as lite as the nula but it's not as bad as the savage and it is a very simple design.for around $800 you can put it together and still have $500 left for a nice scope.jmo