Buck Conner1
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.It appears there's no shortage of either huh
They just pop-up everywhere from movies to our elected officials, there seems to be a growing amount anymore.
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.It appears there's no shortage of either huh
.I love my cva accura Mr. Love the feel and love the way it shoots. I like my two renegades as well. Room in my safe for both. I'm sewn wrong
A great example of some very narrow minded thinking. Not cool
You keep right on bein you & doin what you love, how ya like doin it for as long as your mind & body allow ya to do it. Thats what livning & real freedom is all about. Modern muzzleloader is my " home forum " as well.I'm on three different forums, and I really have no argument with any of them, I'm here for what I can learn and to share what I have learned. I personally don't care what you hunt with as long as you observe fair Chase and don't bring disgrace down on hunters. I guess modern muzzleloaders is probably the one I enjoy the most, because they don't nitpick there. Personally I haven't decided whether to use a muzzleloader or my 270 to hunt with this year, just depends what the weather brings. My new percussion has a black plastic/fiberglass stock. I bought it so that I wouldn't have to fight wood warp, but I also thought it might irritate some of the bluebloods that I shoot with. I'm surprised nobody commented out loud. As much as I like to pretend I'm back in 1840, the firearms I use, the equipment I have, the knowledge that's available, there's just no way that I can do much more than just pretend.
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.I have a question for the traditional muzzleloader enthusiasts. What is your initial "reaction" when someone puts a scope on a sidelock?
Good one Buck.....
"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one" Franklin D. Roosevelt (Clint Eastwood - Dirty Harry) :dancing chicken:
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Nice collection there Hanshi. I put an archangel stock and sporterized an SKS once with removal mag. Those rifle are extremely accurate until you heat the barrel up. Like the M14, you can throw it in the mud and still come up firing.We were issued M14s but did some brief training with the M16. Forgot, but I did have a Spanish Mauser in .308 that I liked and later traded. The older military (at least pre-WWII) rifles do interest me and I almost bought a fine condition Mosin back in Ga. The really old ones, such as you posted, are of interest to me.
My collection before the last move. Quite pared down now, though. The one at the very top is my US 1841 .54 and my only remaining military rifle.
A "more better" pic of the 1841.
SKS paratrooper and standard rifle. Had them for years but sold them for our move. I actually installed a 30 round mag on the paratrooper.
"and they all stink" sorry...just had to finish that quote..
"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one" Franklin D. Roosevelt (Clint Eastwood - Dirty Harry) :dancing chicken:
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I'd say if you want to or have to use a scope for hunting, you would probably be better off going to an inline. IMO a scope detracts from the looks of a traditional ML. The antique long scopes do look good on them though..
I don't like the looks of a scope on a traditional muzzleloader - side-lock or under-hammer. But have seen original Civil War rifles with the long scope (maybe a 2 power at best) used more for centering on the target.
There are original side-lock and under-hammers with the long scopes, the length make them impossible to use for hunting (you would be spending more effort keeping the scope from getting hung-up in brush than looking for game). I've been told by old timers (crap now I'm one) they were used mainly as bench guns or ones used for sniper work in the day.
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under hammers RULE! ( just kidding).
Marty this is an interesting subject and what others think.
By the way the second gun shown was used by a southern sniper to kill a high ranking Union Officer at the end of the Civil War (documented in several books).
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Union Officer killed at a quarter mile, with one shot from this rifle held by a southern sniper.
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There is one particular guy on gunbroker that we sold an under hammer to. He just loves them...believe he said he had five of various builds. Myself, I love the flintlocks and side-locks. Like Hanshi, when I just can't use the steel sights, I'll switch to my Winchester 70(post '64)30-06.under hammers RULE! ( just kidding)
Buck I know how you feel about the Democrat Party, However if we start banning speech like Twitter and Facebook....we become like them. Seems to me every time a DEMOCRAT starts losing support, they want something banned. This particular thread is questions about scopes on traditional muzzle-loaders and that's what any references should be made to. So far, most of the posts on this thread seem to be about scopes & traditional ML's. If possible change the TITLE ON THIS THREAD to reflect the posts on scopes..
Here's a request to the boss from Pete and myself:
Jonathan it's time you to ban political threads/posts on this forum. They're ruining this forum. Myself and Pete are getting mail and PM's from members that say they won't post here anymore because of these threads and the back and forth arguing. Most of the good forums won't allow political issues or threads/posts.
If this continues pretty soon they'll be the only ones talking to each other.
Muzzle-Loading and Muzzle-Loader Hunting should be the topics. Everything else needs to be deleted. We started out trying to help others and now it's a crap shoot.
I'm as bad doing this as anyone, I'll stop posting anything other than what this site was intended for originally. If you would want to use me please feel free to do so, I don't mind being the "escape goat".
What do you members think, are we "right or wrong".
Buck
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Never thought about mounting a scope that way. Awesome and later you can still maintain the aesthetics of the ML.At 72 years and after 2 cataract surgeries I was working on a load for a new to me ,.36 flinter. Just couldn’t get a group I thought it and I were capable of shooting at 50 yards. Using epoxy on a scope base I Mounted a long eye relief scope (to clear the frizzed/cock/pan debris) but no improvement then realized that the same group with a .50 or .54 would’ve been impressive. Was able to remove the scope and tap the base to remove it from the barrel.
If I feel a need for a scope on a traditional ML I’ll repeat the above. A few years ago I was helping a Sheep rancher reduce the deer population that was decimating his wheat crop. The set up required shooting to 300+ yards so I dusted off the ‘98 fitted with a Douglas .30-06 barrel and a Leupold. 4 shots filled 4 of my 5 tags then back to the woods and a .54 flinter with fixed open sights.
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