They're not the same anymore and haven't been for quite awhile. I purchased 300 gr. Hornady SST's over a year ago and they have the soft rubbery Flex Tip on them. But the last time I saw Shockwaves on the shelves of stores, they still had the hard plastic polymer tip, just not as pointed as the old SST's had though. That's why I was wondering if the Shockwaves still come with the tip like they always did. I think Herb answered that. Thanks!