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Nothing wrong with modern muzzle loaders......or .209 primers....
I agree, nothing wrong with them at all. Their popularity does help keep the sport going. But they're not my "cup of tea".
Nothing wrong with modern muzzle loaders......or .209 primers....
They are trying to keep it a "short range season" (apparently they've never seen some of the conical boys shoot, such as Idaholewis) with those kinds of rules, looking for 100 yards or less type of capability. They also know a lot of folks simply can't/won't put in the time for accurate load development, so it will also reduce the amount of hunters for that season. It is all about having a lower harvest success rate.
No there isn't, but muzzleloader hunting season was started for traditional weapons. Just like archery season. It was the characteristics of the weapon and hunter. Modern muzzleloaders are not even similar in characteristics. Use them in normal rifle season with scopes and longer ranges. The season was for the older technology.Nothing wrong with modern muzzle loaders......or .209 primers....
I disagree, as it is really about limiting the hunter to one shot. A muzzle loader is a muzzle loader.No there isn't, but muzzleloader hunting season was started for traditional weapons. Just like archery season. It was the characteristics of the weapon and hunter. Modern muzzleloaders are not even similar in characteristics. Use them in normal rifle season with scopes and longer ranges. The season was for the older technology.
The people that run CPW aren't always the brightest bulb in the package....as you say Buck....thinking is very questionable with any government agency.Years ago we saw Colorado use this type of thinking (if that's what it's called). The numbers for wounded game tripled ... ... In a meeting with the DOW they did everything they could to not have a Muzzleloading Season, claimed it cost them money to run a Special Season. We the Colorado Muzzleloading Group showed them their own figures on licenses sold and wages paid to monitor the season, meeting was adjourned.
Maybe now with more liberal ideals, but wasn't here in NY 35 years ago when instituted. Was specifically for the limited workings like bow. Now people with zero interest in muzzleloaders buy the inlines to get one more week in to fill that tag. I never needed the black powder season I filled my tags with my muzzloader in center fire season.I disagree, as it is really about limiting the hunter to one shot. A muzzle loader is a muzzle loader.
.I believe that ML season should be primative, none of this inline B.S. I also agree that ML season should only allow PRB, Conicals or Maxi's (Lead)......and none of the plastic tipped crap. If a person want's to shoot in-lines and plastic tipped projectiles...do it in rifle season.
Now, now, calm down...to each his own...we all love responsible gun owners:cheers:Last year my buddy used a 209 CVA inline. It misfired twice. My caplock KLR had no issues. I have zero trust in shitty in-lines or plastic tipped projectiles.
I believe that ML season should be primative, none of this inline B.S. I also agree that ML season should only allow PRB, Conicals or Maxi's (Lead)......and none of the plastic tipped crap. If a person want's to shoot in-lines and plastic tipped projectiles...do it in rifle season.
As a long term Hunter Education Instructor I point out the plusses and minuses of traditional side lock arms and the new-fangled plastic and stainless creations. I even own one of the so-called "modern muzzleloaders", bought with a HE instructor discount, to use as a demonstrator in classes. ( I own several arms bought specifically for demo use) I don't care for the modern guns, with their shorter sight radii, disassembly for cleaning, and needing a tool to remove spent cap or shotgun primer or an adapter for the primer.
We have regular ML events at the BRC, with modern guns welcome so long as they shoot a patched round ball. This will work if a mild charge and a tight, tough patch is used. My observation is that after one or two shoots the modern ML owners show up with a sidelock and have more fun.
What I really don't like is the merchandising of these modern versions as being long range arms. At anything over 100 yards, the modern contraptions suffer just as much from bullet drop as my Renegade. How many people are good enough at range estimation to place the bullet in the boiler room, and do they know the trajectory of their load well enough to do the job? Personally, my range estimation comes down to "close enough" or "too far".
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