Water jug test

[Spitfire1]

Well you did a stellar job.

 

[patocazador]

The trouble is very few bullets open well at 200 yards that will not fragment apart at 50 yards with most muzzleloading velocities and vice-versa.

The Nosler partition will do well in centerfires but I don't think anyone makes a partitioned bullet in a muzzleloader configuration.

 

[GregK1]

Dave, here are a couple of 452 Mono that I shot last year at 100 yards thru an OSB backstop & into wet sand/dirt. 110gr BH209 was  the charge. Maybe you van use these for comparison- Greg

 

[dlethcoe]

Greg, thank you, Just as I thought, when the Monoflex open up and expand,there are more of them and smaller than when the Barnes open up. I guess that is why they call it that!



Dave

 

[Muley Hunter]

Not sure an animal will expand a bullet like wet sand. That's more of a torture test.

 

[Underclocked]

Well I tried to further the knowledge gained by this thread but failed. I only had 3 jugs to try and the 300 grain PT gold with 77 grains by weight of BH209 and harvester smooth black going 2006 fps. I thought I would be able to find it in the sand that was the backstop. Well. Hit the first jug about an 1" right of where I was aimng and destroyed the 3 jugs. I couldn't recover the slug but there was some copper jacket in the third jug. So I would say it mushroomed but don't know how much. According to the math it should have been going close to 1500fps and almost 1500ft/pounds KE. 
The weather conditions were ridiculous, 98 degrees, high humidity, but virtually no wind. The winged pests almost drained the life out of me. I gotta get a thermacell. 
Like Muley says I think for the price the PT Gold is going to be hard to beat.

 

[patocazador]

Biddler, what distance were you shooting?

 

[Underclocked]

200 yards was the distance I shot the jugs at, sorry for omitting in the first post. Once I get some more jugs and a better bullet catching back stop I will try again and also include the 325 grain .458 Hornady FTX. I think I'm one of the few shooting that one but it is accurate out of both of my muzzleloaders. 

Since I have a chronograph I may try to see what the low end is for a Barnes opening up by reducing powder charge and moving the jugs closer instead of shooting 300-500 yards. Regardless of the outcome I think this thread has some great information and has opened my eyes in respect to bullet design and distance.

 

[GregK1]

Not sure an animal will expand a bullet like wet sand. That's more of a torture test.

One would think that, including me, but what has been strange is the fact that any water expansion tests have yielded the same results.

I have to admit that it surprised me