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Black Powder, Pyrodex, Black Horn 209, Triple 7? Which one is best?
I get asked a lot which one is best? Black Powder, Blackhorn 209, Triple 7 or Pyrodex There is NO WRONG or RIGHT ANSWER my experiences I choose Pyrodex 1) Availability, 2) Cost 3) Works across the board for MY NEEDS.
Thus being said Black Powder is awesome I`d probably use more of it if it were more accessible to me,
My experience with Blackhorn 209 I do not use it I have tried and well not every 209 primer will ignite it, not great in percussion weapons either. That does not mean do not use it or that it is inferior it does mean it is inferior to Pyrodex FOR MY NEEDS. at $95 for 8 ounces one would figure it works like the others, that is a wrong assumption.
Triple 7 is good will cover all my needs, cost is usually $16 more per pound than Pyrodex
As far as "Cleaner" no matter which one is used you have to clean rifles/revolvers/pistols with the same methods after the use of either one. I rod between the second and 3rd shots of each Triple 7, Black Powder, Blackhorn 209, Pyrodex the fouled award tied between Black Powder and Pyrodex the Triple 7 and Blackhorn is a little cleaner could go a few more shots between rodding, but as remains at the end of the day all have to be scrubbed is there a "CLEANER?" my rod/swab on 2nd or 3rd shot is more for safety than cleaning, I like paper cartridges, dropping charges from a flask I want to get rid of hot embers & left paper if any.
Ignition Sources Well Blackhorn as I found out needs a particular primer, trying to save a little money on a cheaper primer to compensate the cost of 209 well no it is not going to ignite it needs more expensive primers as well, Pyrodex, Triple 7, Black Powder do not have the issues heat/spark is heat/spark we go boom
As to is there a best? I shoot revolver, pistol, in-line, percussion I find Pyrodex serves across the panel no hang ups, Straight Flint Lock Folks Black Powder is best for those. In-Lines well lets be clear Today`s Black Powder In-Lines are more suited for the Blackhorn.
Bottom Line: Pick Your Poison, One that serves the needs you need it to. Stick with it. No Right or Wrong just what works Instead of having 1 can Blackhorn 1 can Black Powder 1 can Pyrodex 1 can Triple 7 and ignition sources to suit, I got 1 can PS Pyrodex, 1 can RS Pyrodex and whatever ignition source I choose. just simplifies it for me.
Is there a BETTER? or CLEANER? NO as stated it is What Works for my needs, What is Available, What is Affordable.
New Shooters, Beginners Struggling and those just wondering about the excitement the question poses well there ya have it What is best may not be Available, What is Best May not work with your Primers, What is Best may not be Affordable, What is Best Might cause over pressure issues. What is BEST? is only what works for the shooter, firearm, primers and level of maintenance one is willing to contribute BOTH while shooting and After in the clean up process. What is Best? is only what works it maybe Triple 7 Hornady 209 primers & White Hot Pellets and Remington 209 Primers, Blackhorn and Winchester 209s, Black Powder any primer, Pyrodex and Federal Primers no right or wrong just whatever works. For me that is the fun finding the recipe that works delivering 2 to 2.5 inch shot groups with PRB (Patched Round Ball) at 100 yards or the Same 2-2.5 inches at 100 with a sabot. So the only right is working the load, only wrong is not doing so and being 12 inches high at 100 yards, well he said this works!! very well maybe in the firearm he shoots, yours may not like it, rifling may be different he could have a custom barrel. I know I know it is as straight as a par 4 following a sidewinders path. I think you do understand??
I get asked a lot which one is best? Black Powder, Blackhorn 209, Triple 7 or Pyrodex There is NO WRONG or RIGHT ANSWER my experiences I choose Pyrodex 1) Availability, 2) Cost 3) Works across the board for MY NEEDS.
Thus being said Black Powder is awesome I`d probably use more of it if it were more accessible to me,
My experience with Blackhorn 209 I do not use it I have tried and well not every 209 primer will ignite it, not great in percussion weapons either. That does not mean do not use it or that it is inferior it does mean it is inferior to Pyrodex FOR MY NEEDS. at $95 for 8 ounces one would figure it works like the others, that is a wrong assumption.
Triple 7 is good will cover all my needs, cost is usually $16 more per pound than Pyrodex
As far as "Cleaner" no matter which one is used you have to clean rifles/revolvers/pistols with the same methods after the use of either one. I rod between the second and 3rd shots of each Triple 7, Black Powder, Blackhorn 209, Pyrodex the fouled award tied between Black Powder and Pyrodex the Triple 7 and Blackhorn is a little cleaner could go a few more shots between rodding, but as remains at the end of the day all have to be scrubbed is there a "CLEANER?" my rod/swab on 2nd or 3rd shot is more for safety than cleaning, I like paper cartridges, dropping charges from a flask I want to get rid of hot embers & left paper if any.
Ignition Sources Well Blackhorn as I found out needs a particular primer, trying to save a little money on a cheaper primer to compensate the cost of 209 well no it is not going to ignite it needs more expensive primers as well, Pyrodex, Triple 7, Black Powder do not have the issues heat/spark is heat/spark we go boom
As to is there a best? I shoot revolver, pistol, in-line, percussion I find Pyrodex serves across the panel no hang ups, Straight Flint Lock Folks Black Powder is best for those. In-Lines well lets be clear Today`s Black Powder In-Lines are more suited for the Blackhorn.
Bottom Line: Pick Your Poison, One that serves the needs you need it to. Stick with it. No Right or Wrong just what works Instead of having 1 can Blackhorn 1 can Black Powder 1 can Pyrodex 1 can Triple 7 and ignition sources to suit, I got 1 can PS Pyrodex, 1 can RS Pyrodex and whatever ignition source I choose. just simplifies it for me.
Is there a BETTER? or CLEANER? NO as stated it is What Works for my needs, What is Available, What is Affordable.
New Shooters, Beginners Struggling and those just wondering about the excitement the question poses well there ya have it What is best may not be Available, What is Best May not work with your Primers, What is Best may not be Affordable, What is Best Might cause over pressure issues. What is BEST? is only what works for the shooter, firearm, primers and level of maintenance one is willing to contribute BOTH while shooting and After in the clean up process. What is Best? is only what works it maybe Triple 7 Hornady 209 primers & White Hot Pellets and Remington 209 Primers, Blackhorn and Winchester 209s, Black Powder any primer, Pyrodex and Federal Primers no right or wrong just whatever works. For me that is the fun finding the recipe that works delivering 2 to 2.5 inch shot groups with PRB (Patched Round Ball) at 100 yards or the Same 2-2.5 inches at 100 with a sabot. So the only right is working the load, only wrong is not doing so and being 12 inches high at 100 yards, well he said this works!! very well maybe in the firearm he shoots, yours may not like it, rifling may be different he could have a custom barrel. I know I know it is as straight as a par 4 following a sidewinders path. I think you do understand??