.45 or .50

[flint head]

fisher, a bullet traveling at 120g of BH speed out of my Knight that will bust a deer shoulder and hold together... ideally a bonded 200 Shockwave. I've splintered more than one shoulder with the bonded 250 and it held together perfectly. I did order some Extreme Elite 240's... but would probably have to keep the charge around 90-100g for them to work properly on game.

 

[Swampman]

I thought the problem with .45s was the lack of a good sabot?

 

[NimrodRx]

I thought the problem with .45s was the lack of a good sabot?

Not true at all. The problem with a 45 is lack of good bullets in .40 diameter (sans the Barnes IMHO). Most all of the 10 mm/40 S&W bullets are too light (150'ish grain). As opposed to the .45 pistol bullets that so many of us shoot out of our saboted 50s.

 

[Reese]

Harvester offers light blue smooth and crush rib .45/.40 cal sabots. I have experienced very good performance from the smooth sabot. I have not tried the crush rib sabot.

MMP offers sabots in .45/.40 and .45/.357. I have not given either enough shooting time to comment on them.

 

[frontier gander]

my next rifle i am going to put together is a .45cal cva mountain rifle, i sold one last year on "accident" and regret it. That was easily my #1 best shooting .45 muzzle loader. Next up was the Winchester Apex .45 that corey now owns. I always shot Powerbelts in them and never had any problems with accuracy but i know 99% here prefer sabots. Minus Batchief, Hes a BS conical shootin guy.

 

[paia]

The Hawk .40 offerings won't be available for mass production until February'ish.

I don't know a single person that has switched to a 45 and gone back to the 50. I know I won't.

Actually, I did. But not because I don't like the idea of having a .45. I had a couple .50's--T/C Black Diamond and an Omega--and decided to try a .45 and ordered an Winchester Apex when they first came out (2003?) in .45.

I liked the Apex OK, but it was not the rifle I think the Omega is so I wound up selling it and have shot .50's ever since--now I have two Omegas and a Savage.

I am not anti-.45 at all though. If a company like Knight or T/C made a .45 I would be very interested in trying it out, especially since Blackhorn209 came out.

BTW--thanks for the info on the Hawk bullets. And my Omegas shoot the Barnes .40/195 bullet very well with the MMP Blue sabot and I would hunt with them with confidence. I'd like to see a tougher .40 SST and look forward to trying the Hawks.

And I keep a casual eye out for a nice American made .45, like the Knight Extreme to buy... :wink:

 

[fisher2072]

PR Bullets

Precision rifle is offerring a Christmas sale that ends Jan 8th, this isn't their recession sale, but a new one! They have Dead centers for $8-$10 a pack, and Extreme elites as low as $5 a pack! I might put in an order tomarrow! Any one else local interested in group buy, let me know! The dead Centers are normally $14.50 a pack!

 

[bp45cal]

i like a white in 410 cal with a big bullet sumthing like a 455gr pill :wink: sum of you no what i mean 8) 8)