Well last minute of the last day for Michigans youth season and my son connects with a beautiful 5 point buck. He was useing the same gun and load as he did when he shot his doe in my other post. This shot was 102 yards on the range finder, i ranged it right before he pulled the trigger. The bullet center punched the shoulder, he ran about 50 yds and piled up right in front of the treestand. 2 hunt = 2 deer. The boy is sure putting the pressure on dear old dad.