PRB vs Maxi ball

[reubj]

Not trying to be picky but actually the math is .1257 not .04. Try this web site chuck hawks.com/54_caliber_muzzleloader.htm

Apples and oranges. ".1257" is the increase in circumference, not caliber.

 

[valkyrie]

.50 R/B Hornady,182 gr vs. No Excuses 535 gr .54 Conical.

 

[Renegadehunter]

Hello fellow NY er I also have a 54 cal TC Renedgade. I was given a dozen maxie hunters. Do you have any suggestions on powder charge and type of lube I have only shot permanent round ball. Thank you for any help.

You can try them but maxi hunters don't seem to shoot near as well as the maxi balls do.
Idaholewis recently did a video on his youtube channel where he shot some maxi-balls, 3 with the top and bottom grooves lubed and then 3 with only the bottom groove lubed. The accuracy difference was eye opening, the ones with just the bottom groove lubed shot night and day better. He did the experiment with a factory .50 TC barrel I think, but I bet it would be similar in a .54.
Idaholewis's theory was that they just don't need that much lube to go up the barrel and the result is they don't shed all of the lube in the top groove, so you end up with a bullet that has lop-sided lube when it flies out of the barrel and this causes them to fly poorly. Imagine a spinning bullet that has a wad of lube on just one side, no way that is going to fly well.

I might be worth experimenting with the hunters with just the bottom groove lubed, and perhaps the bottom and middle.

 

[Dusty hunter]

I was given 24 of them. By a friend who called them SABOTS. I thought they were maxie hunters. Like I said in my original post I have only purchased PRB for the last 35 years. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[valkyrie]

Take a look at this;

Maxi Balls

Exceptional quality black powder rifles, shooting bags, powder horns and muzzle loading accessories

www.octobercountry.com

Just use google images for the tc maxie hunter, it's a shorter design.

 

[Renegadehunter]

I was given 24 of them. By a friend who called them SABOTS. I thought they were maxie hunters. Like I said in my original post I have only purchased PRB for the last 35 years. Any help would be much appreciated.

Those are maxi-balls, I bet they will work great if you only lube the bottom groove.

 

[Idaholewis]

Take a look at this;

Maxi Balls

Exceptional quality black powder rifles, shooting bags, powder horns and muzzle loading accessories

www.octobercountry.com

Just use google images for the tc maxie hunter, it's a shorter design.

I live about 30-40 miles from that Place (October Country) I am NONE impressed with their Cast Bullets, and personally would NOT advise them. I bought some 600 Grain 58 Cal Maxi Balls from them a few years ago that were horrible Quality, Beat up badly, Pin holes, and wrinkles, They weighed as much as 20 Grains Apart, Whoever Casts their Bullets? Does a POOR JOB. If you read the Reviews, others have had issues with them as well. The Bullets in their Picture look like Wheel Weight Lead, I see a “Pulled/Tore” Sprue Cut on one of them, That is a sign of a HARD Bullet. For best performance on Game, You want Pure SOFT LEAD at Typical Muzzleloader Velocities of 1,300 to 1,500 Fps

 

[valkyrie]

I only offered the reference(s) for an identification purpose I personally have never used them. And made no recomendations. I use "no excuses".

 

[CVA Enthusiast]

PRB`s or Conical` s ooooh wow now that is a can of worms, I say try actual testing of both at the maximum range you want to shoot from/to measure the spread the one you like the best well that is what you shoot. Me I am a Thompson Cheap Shot 230 grain hollow point myself, Neither Conical/Round Ball uses a plastic sabot. Like I stated it works for me