Buck Conner1
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Re: GRRW IS BACK, NOW CALLED - "GRRW CA" - "Building One Gun At A Time"
Each model produced at GRRW had several originals firearms to copy, Doc or one of his smith's always knew someone with what was needed in personal collections. It didn't matter whether it was a half-stock or full-stock Hawken, a Leman or a Trapper Pistol, one would be found, prints made with all the measurements recorded and pictures taken.
Colorado mountain-man Mariano Medina's Hawken was on loan to the Loveland Library, stolen and recovered, then sent to the Colorado Historical Society for safe keeping (stolen from there several times and finally sold to the Gordon Collection. I got to handled it when in Loveland (Medina home) and Ed Trump (GRRW smith) found it when it was taken from the Historical Society location. In the 60's and 70's you could find Hawken and leman rifles for sale at gun shows or advertised in Shotgun News, some had been owned by some famous folks.They were expensive but under $10K today we would have to sell our homes to afford one at the $100K price range.
For an example of who carried a few of these guns see: [url=http://furtradebooks.tripod.com/those.that.carried.htm]http://furtradebooks.tripod.com/those.that.carried.htm[/url] and look at the price of a Leman Squirrel rifle in 1943 at: [url=http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.lemans/leman.squirrel.rifle.htm]http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.lemans/leman.squirrel.rifle.htm[/url]
For parts in one case "Blue Jacket" Sanders had castings made of an original Leman buttplate and triggerguard used on GRRW Lemans. I'm looking for that set of "Blues" Leman molds with his markers mark now, they disappeared after the firm closed, then castings were available for a period then gone again.
We have spent countless hours researching these guns on sale sheets & catalogs of Bannerman & Son as well as Collector Societies or a half dozen of these rifles offered from H.E. Leman. The more research done on their details the closer one gets to building a good reproduction of any of this gun.
Look at the detail on this Leman Indian Trade rifle found in Larry Ness' Collection : [url=http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.schematic.htm]http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.schematic.htm[/url] as time allows I can provide similar references.
Muley said:Very cool. Thanks.
Wish I could afford one.
Each model produced at GRRW had several originals firearms to copy, Doc or one of his smith's always knew someone with what was needed in personal collections. It didn't matter whether it was a half-stock or full-stock Hawken, a Leman or a Trapper Pistol, one would be found, prints made with all the measurements recorded and pictures taken.
Colorado mountain-man Mariano Medina's Hawken was on loan to the Loveland Library, stolen and recovered, then sent to the Colorado Historical Society for safe keeping (stolen from there several times and finally sold to the Gordon Collection. I got to handled it when in Loveland (Medina home) and Ed Trump (GRRW smith) found it when it was taken from the Historical Society location. In the 60's and 70's you could find Hawken and leman rifles for sale at gun shows or advertised in Shotgun News, some had been owned by some famous folks.They were expensive but under $10K today we would have to sell our homes to afford one at the $100K price range.
For an example of who carried a few of these guns see: [url=http://furtradebooks.tripod.com/those.that.carried.htm]http://furtradebooks.tripod.com/those.that.carried.htm[/url] and look at the price of a Leman Squirrel rifle in 1943 at: [url=http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.lemans/leman.squirrel.rifle.htm]http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.lemans/leman.squirrel.rifle.htm[/url]
For parts in one case "Blue Jacket" Sanders had castings made of an original Leman buttplate and triggerguard used on GRRW Lemans. I'm looking for that set of "Blues" Leman molds with his markers mark now, they disappeared after the firm closed, then castings were available for a period then gone again.
We have spent countless hours researching these guns on sale sheets & catalogs of Bannerman & Son as well as Collector Societies or a half dozen of these rifles offered from H.E. Leman. The more research done on their details the closer one gets to building a good reproduction of any of this gun.
Look at the detail on this Leman Indian Trade rifle found in Larry Ness' Collection : [url=http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.schematic.htm]http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/page.schematic.htm[/url] as time allows I can provide similar references.