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[michiganmuzzy]

. I have my eyes on a bronze CVA Scout 45/70 for a Hankins smokeless conversion hopefully next spring.

I really like that bronze cerakote. I have to see about getting my Scout done.

 

[white eagle]

MCARBO?

https://www.mcarbo.com/thompson-center-encore-pro-hunter-trigger-spring-kit.aspx

yes that is the one and, the best part, you can accomplish it yourself no need to send it anywhere

 

[birdog]

I really like that bronze cerakote. I have to see about getting my Scout done.

I absolutely love the bronze

 

[Bkusch53]

have you tried the spring switch out for you action?
I have done it on 2 frames make a real difference
Forgive me but I forget the manufacturer of the spring kit

My 260 Remington can kill anything a 280 can and even further out

 

[The long rider]

My 260 Remington can kill anything a 280 can and even further out

You might want to check into that a little more, The .280 Remington will shoot the same weight bullet about 250 fps faster than the .260 Remington. While the BC is higher.520 for the .260 the BC is at .465 with the .284 bullet. At 800 yds the .280 will drop less and has slightly more energy. I own rifles in both of these fine calibers, but for big game hunting larger than a Whitetail I will take the .280 Remington hands down.

 

[snapbang]

You might want to check into that a little more, The .280 Remington will shoot the same weight bullet about 250 fps faster than the .260 Remington. While the BC is higher.520 for the .260 the BC is at .465 with the .284 bullet. At 800 yds the .280 will drop less and has slightly more energy. I own rifles in both of these fine calibers, but for big game hunting larger than a Whitetail I will take the .280 Remington hands down.

I didnt have time to do the research you did rider but knew something wasn't right there.

 

[Bkusch53]

I stand corrected.... But at my age I'll take the felt recoil of the 260 vs. the 280.

 

[bigdan1965]

I was looking for a butt stock for my T/C Encore frame and found a T/C Flex Tech stock and was able to snatch it up for only $85. I was the only bidder. And to make things even sweeter it matches the forend of the 209x45 barrel I'm putting on the frame.
I was also able to pick up another Encore online with a .243 barrel which I'm going to sell and put my 7-08 Rem barrel on it.
I will then have 3 complete Encores: a 7-08, 209x45 and 209x50.

I'd really love to find a stainless 209×45 Magnum barrel for my TC Encore ProHunter.

 

[bronko220002]

the only thing better that a 280 in a 280 Ack Imp

And the only thing better than that is the 30-06! We could go on and on and on........

 

[DavidAR10T]

Luvzmesum 7-08.

 

[snapbang]

Never had a 7mm-08 but thought it to be a fine cartridge. I stuck with the 243 Winchester for varmint and deer use.

 

[The long rider]

You might wanna look again, we're splittin hairs, but take a look here.

280 Remington vs. 30-06 | Caliber Comparison​

the 280 Remington and the 30-06 are two cartridges that use the same case just in a different caliber. But does the size of the caliber matter? Which is better ballistically? Which is more versatile? In this article, we will answer all those questions and all questions surrounding the 280 Remington and the 30-06.
Here is the short answer:
If you are looking for a cartridge that is versatile and has a wide range of ammunition choices, the 30-06 is an excellent choice. If you are looking for a cartridge that has a flatter trajectory and higher velocity, the 280 Remington may be the better option.
Now that we have looked at the short answer, we can look at each cartridge in depth like their ballistics, what they are best used for, and how they compare to each other.

An in-depth look at the 30-06​

For decades, the 30-06 rifle cartridge has been a popular choice among hunters. Hailed as one of the most versatile cartridges ever created, it is effective in taking down game ranging from bison to whitetail deer. With an extensive history in the United States serving as primary ammunition for World War I and II soldiers, its long-range accuracy and power remain undisputed today; although modern takes such as 280 Remington have gained popularity over recent years.
The 30-06 is often considered the most versatile cartridge in the short because it is considered to be the lightest calibe you can see to hunt all game in North America. The 30-06 can also shoot bullet weights ranging from 110-grains to 220-grains giving it a wide array of ballistics.
Here is a ballistics chart of the 30-06 with a 180-grain soft point bullet:

Range (YD)	drop (IN)	wind drift (IN)	velocity FPS	energy ft-lb
0	-1.5	0	2700	2913
50	-0.1	0.2	2584	2668
100	0	0.9	2470	2439
150	-1.3	2	2359	2225
200	-4.2	3.7	2252	2026
250	-8.8	6	2147	1842
300	-15.3	8.8	2045	1671
350	-23.8	12.1	1945	1512
400	-34.6	16.2	1848	1365
450	-48.1	21.2	1756	1232
500	-64.6	27	1667	1111

An in-depth look at the 280 Remington​

The 280 Remington, designed in 1957 by the Remington Arms Company with the aim of bridging the gap between 25-06 and 7mm Magnum cartridges, is one of two widely respected cartridges for hunting big game in North America. Both are known to be powerful enough to take down large animals and have similar accuracy ranges as well as bullet drops. Nevertheless, there exist certain disparities that render any one cartridge more suitable than others for particular types of hunting.
The 280 Remington is a popular cartridge for hunting game as big as elk to as small as coyotes. It has a relatively wide range of bullet weights due to the popularity of the 284 caliber but nothing like that of the 30-06.
Here is a ballistics chart of the 280 Remington with a 150-grain soft point bullet:

Range (YD)	drop (IN)	wind drift (IN)	velocity FPS	energy ft-lb
0	-1.5	0	2890	2782
50	-0.2	0.2	2777	2569
100	0	0.8	2667	2369
150	-1	1.8	2560	2183
200	-3.4	3.1	2455	2008
250	-7.2	4.9	2353	1844
300	-12.6	7.3	2253	1690
350	-19.7	10.2	2156	1547
400	-28.6	13.6	2060	1414
450	-39.6	17.5	1968	1289
500	-52.6	22	1877	1173

which cartridge is truly better?​

Concerning their differences, let us begin with the ballistics of these two cartridges. The 30-06 has a muzzle velocity of about 2700-2800 feet per second (fps) while its counterpart generates around 3050 fps when fired with factory ammunition loads from an average 22-inch barrel rifle; this higher speed gives it better trajectory capabilities compared to the 30-06 as well as flatter shooting characteristics over longer distances which would be advantageous should hunters pursue larger species in more open countrysides or mountainous regions where shots may need to reach out beyond 300 yards away.
In terms of cost and availability, there isn’t much difference between the two cartridges since they can both usually be found through most retailers who carry firearms supplies. However, many reloads will choose the 30-06 for its wider array of bullet weights.
In terms of energy, the 30-06 is a more powerful cartridge at ranges inside of 500 yards however, the 280 does eventually overtake the 30-06 in energy. So if you need a heavy hitting cartridge for game such as elk or moose the 30-06 is the better choice
The first disparity is in terms of recoil – although they generate corresponding energy when shot, 30-06 creates more felt recoil due to its larger case capacity and higher pressures caused by burning powder at a faster rate than what its smaller counterpart does with decreased amounts of powder.

Conclusion​

The 30-06 is better for hunter going after big game such as elk or moose, or those who are after a versatile cartridge. But the 280 Remington is better for those who want to shoot at extended ranges.

 

[Ninering62]

Never had a 7mm-08 but thought it to be a fine cartridge. I stuck with the 243 Winchester for varmint and deer use.

That .243 is a fantastic, versatile caliber

 

[Ninering62]

You might wanna look again, we're splittin hairs, but take a look here.

280 Remington vs. 30-06 | Caliber Comparison​

the 280 Remington and the 30-06 are two cartridges that use the same case just in a different caliber. But does the size of the caliber matter? Which is better ballistically? Which is more versatile? In this article, we will answer all those questions and all questions surrounding the 280 Remington and the 30-06.
Here is the short answer:
If you are looking for a cartridge that is versatile and has a wide range of ammunition choices, the 30-06 is an excellent choice. If you are looking for a cartridge that has a flatter trajectory and higher velocity, the 280 Remington may be the better option.
Now that we have looked at the short answer, we can look at each cartridge in depth like their ballistics, what they are best used for, and how they compare to each other.

An in-depth look at the 30-06​

For decades, the 30-06 rifle cartridge has been a popular choice among hunters. Hailed as one of the most versatile cartridges ever created, it is effective in taking down game ranging from bison to whitetail deer. With an extensive history in the United States serving as primary ammunition for World War I and II soldiers, its long-range accuracy and power remain undisputed today; although modern takes such as 280 Remington have gained popularity over recent years.
The 30-06 is often considered the most versatile cartridge in the short because it is considered to be the lightest calibe you can see to hunt all game in North America. The 30-06 can also shoot bullet weights ranging from 110-grains to 220-grains giving it a wide array of ballistics.
Here is a ballistics chart of the 30-06 with a 180-grain soft point bullet:

Range (YD)	drop (IN)	wind drift (IN)	velocity FPS	energy ft-lb
0	-1.5	0	2700	2913
50	-0.1	0.2	2584	2668
100	0	0.9	2470	2439
150	-1.3	2	2359	2225
200	-4.2	3.7	2252	2026
250	-8.8	6	2147	1842
300	-15.3	8.8	2045	1671
350	-23.8	12.1	1945	1512
400	-34.6	16.2	1848	1365
450	-48.1	21.2	1756	1232
500	-64.6	27	1667	1111

An in-depth look at the 280 Remington​

The 280 Remington, designed in 1957 by the Remington Arms Company with the aim of bridging the gap between 25-06 and 7mm Magnum cartridges, is one of two widely respected cartridges for hunting big game in North America. Both are known to be powerful enough to take down large animals and have similar accuracy ranges as well as bullet drops. Nevertheless, there exist certain disparities that render any one cartridge more suitable than others for particular types of hunting.
The 280 Remington is a popular cartridge for hunting game as big as elk to as small as coyotes. It has a relatively wide range of bullet weights due to the popularity of the 284 caliber but nothing like that of the 30-06.
Here is a ballistics chart of the 280 Remington with a 150-grain soft point bullet:

Range (YD)	drop (IN)	wind drift (IN)	velocity FPS	energy ft-lb
0	-1.5	0	2890	2782
50	-0.2	0.2	2777	2569
100	0	0.8	2667	2369
150	-1	1.8	2560	2183
200	-3.4	3.1	2455	2008
250	-7.2	4.9	2353	1844
300	-12.6	7.3	2253	1690
350	-19.7	10.2	2156	1547
400	-28.6	13.6	2060	1414
450	-39.6	17.5	1968	1289
500	-52.6	22	1877	1173

which cartridge is truly better?​

Concerning their differences, let us begin with the ballistics of these two cartridges. The 30-06 has a muzzle velocity of about 2700-2800 feet per second (fps) while its counterpart generates around 3050 fps when fired with factory ammunition loads from an average 22-inch barrel rifle; this higher speed gives it better trajectory capabilities compared to the 30-06 as well as flatter shooting characteristics over longer distances which would be advantageous should hunters pursue larger species in more open countrysides or mountainous regions where shots may need to reach out beyond 300 yards away.
In terms of cost and availability, there isn’t much difference between the two cartridges since they can both usually be found through most retailers who carry firearms supplies. However, many reloads will choose the 30-06 for its wider array of bullet weights.
In terms of energy, the 30-06 is a more powerful cartridge at ranges inside of 500 yards however, the 280 does eventually overtake the 30-06 in energy. So if you need a heavy hitting cartridge for game such as elk or moose the 30-06 is the better choice
The first disparity is in terms of recoil – although they generate corresponding energy when shot, 30-06 creates more felt recoil due to its larger case capacity and higher pressures caused by burning powder at a faster rate than what its smaller counterpart does with decreased amounts of powder.

Conclusion​

The 30-06 is better for hunter going after big game such as elk or moose, or those who are after a versatile cartridge. But the 280 Remington is better for those who want to shoot at extended ranges.

Great post brother. Thanks

 

[LBAhunter]

280AI, gets my vote. My custom Rem. 700 280AI 25 inch heavy Hart 10t barrel will shoot Barnes 110gr TTSX to Nolser 160gr Accubonds, and everything in between, with scary accuracy. When she comes out for the hunt, the hunt just got real serious.