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we should know better? Maybe many of us WANT to shoot black powder or subs.
Thing is it is apples to orangesI prefer Black Horn in my inline low pressure black powder guns and live with the dirt. Or I shoot Black powder in my RB guns and live with the clean up
I would not loose the efficiency of BH to smokeless powder in my 2 Reminghtons, 1 savage, and 1 scout conversion .
Enjoy the BH in your smokeless guns. I go for the performance I built my guns for.
A wool or fiber wad will help with the dirt but why matter in a gun designed to shoot a cleaner powder and no wad.
BH will not get close to what can be done as far as velocity in any gun using an extruded smokless powder.
BH is meant for a black powder substitute not to replace or replicate modern smokeless powder.
Try as you may, but your smokeless gun with the correct powder in smaller charges will out perform equal or even greater charges of BH.
All of the black powder subs are much more hydroscopic than smokeless propellants.
Smokeless made black powder and even the subs obsolete. Not trying to break any ones bubble here but you guys should know better.
But part of the fun is Experimenting witch I don't do much of any more.
I think thats fantastic! Sounds like your logic, rational & good common sense are all on point. And its really freakin cool that the " heart of the real muzzleloader " still calls to ya & ya listen.After thinking this over for a while if at all possible I am wanting to go back to either BH209 or even 777 out of my smokeless build. I just do not feel I shoot enough to be comfortable shooting smokeless powder. The few times I have out of this gun I haven't enjoyed it. I always have at least 2 of my kids around when I shoot and the attention to detail smokeless requires is something I can't do. I thought about selling this rig and buying a Knight Ultralite but I think I will just shoot BH209, for now, that way if the smokeless urge ever strikes again I still have a capable gun.
Now with the backstory out of the way I need some load advice. I also want to get away from the $3+ a piece fancy sabotless bullets and go back to shooting conicals as well. I miss the smoke and the "Thwack" noise heavy lead makes when it hits something lol. I have the HIS ignition system in this gun so not sure how that plays into this. When I had my .45 Mountaineer with 209 ignition IIRC my load I settled on was 80 grains BH209, wool wad, and a 460 no excuse conical.
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