Bullet Lubes

[drpatton]

I bought 2 types of bullet lube and will make some of my own.

To each pound of lube, I intend to add a 2.6 oz. bottle of Stihl Ultra Synthetic 2 stroke Engine Oil and maybe a stick of beeswax as needed.

I bought Bull Shop's Nasa lube for my serious shooting ($35 per lb+ shipping) add Stihl Oil

SPG ($30 per pound + shipping) add Stihl Oil, for most other applications, with the exception of plinking bullets. I don't want to spent too much to lube a Maxi-Ball and other plinking rounds.

My plinking lube will be 8 oz of Beef tallow, 4 oz Aloe Vera gel, 4 oz, of Refined Avocado oil, Stihl oil and Beeswax. I used to use crisco with tallow, but Crisco changed their formula and its smoke and flash points are much, much lower than before.

I looked into other oils, i.e. peanut and neatsfoot oil, but none of those have as high of a smoke & flash point as the 2, I used. There is a special kind of Canola oil that does, but it is expensive.
My Total cost per pound, $12.

Is my thinking sound?
Is my own recipe a good one?

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[edmehlig]

Like what was stated earlier I’d mix half of the oil at a time to see how you like the lube.

 

[drpatton]

Like what was stated earlier I’d mix half of the oil at a time to see how you like the lube.

Does the oil make it too thin? Or does it change the lubrication properties of the rest?

 

[45-70]

I bought 2 types of bullet lube and will make some of my own.

To each pound of lube, I intend to add a 2.6 oz. bottle of Stihl Ultra Synthetic 2 stroke Engine Oil and maybe a stick of beeswax as needed.

I bought Bull Shop's Nasa lube for my serious shooting ($35 per lb+ shipping) add Stihl Oil

SPG ($30 per pound + shipping) add Stihl Oil, for most other applications, with the exception of plinking bullets. I don't want to spent too much to lube a Maxi-Ball and other plinking rounds.

My plinking lube will be 8 oz of Beef tallow, 4 oz of Extra Virgin Olive oil, 4 oz, of Refined Avocado oil, Stihl oil and Beeswax. I used to use crisco with tallow, but Crisco changed their formula and its smoke and flash points are much, much lower than before.

I looked into other oils, i.e. peanut and neatsfoot oil, and aloe, but none of those have as high of a smoke & flash point as the 2, I used. There is a special kind of Canola oil that does, but it is expensive.
My Total cost per pound, $12.

Is my thinking sound?
Is my own recipe a good one?

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if you use oil it should be synthetic

 

[drpatton]

if you use oil it should be synthetic

The Stihl HP Ultra 2 stroke oil is fully synthetic

 

[edmehlig]

Does the oil make it too thin? Or does it change the lubrication properties of the rest?

It makes it soften

 

[drpatton]

It makes it soften

So, if it is too soft, then adding beeswax is self defeating?

That brings up another question. How hard should the lube be? What is too soft?

 

[edmehlig]

Some people like the lube to be soft. If it gets too soft it is messy to work with. That's why people say with 1lb of NASA or SPG lube, add 1/2 a bottle of that Sthil oil at a time to get the texture you like. Personally, I used 1 bottle with a 1 lb lube. But you may like half a bottle?

 

[drpatton]

Would adding ALOX to the mixture help any?

 

[X-ring]

Would adding ALOX to the mixture help any?

My advise to you would be to not over think things. Keep your lube formula simple and repeatable and make a SMALL batch to start with. X

 

[morehops]

For my 1st attempt at lubing I wanted to keep it as simple as possible so i just went with veggie oil and beeswax. 1st attempt was too soft/messy. Adjusted beeswax until I got what i wanted. The ratio you want may change with the temperature. Have fun experimenting by making small batches. To speed things up you can cool them in the fridge.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I think i will split my lube and mix up half into a winter blend with more Stihl Ultra oil in it.

 

[drpatton]

I think i will split my lube and mix up half into a winter blend with more Stihl Ultra oil in it.

It's Stihl not too late

 

[WP79Vet]

It's Stihl not too late

Misfire!!!

 

[drpatton]

I think i will split my lube and mix up half into a winter blend with more Stihl Ultra oil in it.

I was thinking of splitting mine when I blend it for the same reason. When I pour my Winter blend into containers, I'll leave half of it in the pot and add a stick of beeswax for the hotter months.

 

[drpatton]

Misfire!!!

Oh, it fired, it just didn't go anywhere.

 

[drpatton]

My advise to you would be to not over think things. Keep your lube formula simple and repeatable and make a SMALL batch to start with. X

OK. 1/4 lb of Crisco, 1/4 lb of Beef Tallow, 1/2 a bottle of Stihl Oil & Beeswax.
That is simple. I thought of adding Safflower oil (600*-700*F Flash point) or Aloe.
But why? I don't even know if that stuff works in a bullet lube.

 

[eekjellander]

Would adding ALOX to the mixture help any?

NO Alox ,works with smokeless not so much with BP/subs /PM me I have that recipe and the experience as I use it exclusively for lubing conicals/Ed

 

[Bad Karma]

Would adding ALOX to the mixture help any?

Idaholewis added it to the SPG/Stih/Alox/peanut oil lube as well as the NASA based version, so I did too. It works just fine. This is the Alox stick meant for use in the lubrisizer, not the tumble lube stuff.

 

[Greg_E]

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I have a big bottle and find that a plastic bag with a small amount added goes a long way to getting stuff lubed, but haven't shot any yet.

Powder coat also prevents lead in the barrel, but nothing for powder fouling. I've tried powder coat and commercial patch lube with good success, but need to try just the PC bullets to see how it works.