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The only way one can 'know' that, is if both objects have the same energy.Energy is not a factor in the scenario... it is the contact size of the object as it enters the water.
The only way one can 'know' that, is if both objects have the same energy.Energy is not a factor in the scenario... it is the contact size of the object as it enters the water.
They look impressive but the power belts I used were 50 cal hollow point /245 gr . My cast Great Plains or the Lee Real are a few examples of wide mega plate cast bullets doing what they do best ,kill stuff . The power belts mentioned do that for me ,furthest with a inline 50 powerbelt was 174yds ranged .I" m sure there are pointy bullets that reach out much further but I don"t shoot much further so I do not opine on those . I know Power Belts work for my application ,and that was all I said ,your experience is not mine/EdI got bored watching it rain today so I set up a 50 yard test range in my back yard.
I bought a pack of elr s at wal mart hoping powerbelt had changed something up and gotten this one right. I’ll post pics and let y’all be the judge
I shot it into 5 water jugs backed up by a bag of play sand. Distance was 50 yards The load was the 325 grain elr 50 cal with 71.1 grains (weighed) of fffg 777 with a cci 209 m primer. It went through all 5 jugs and stuck in the sand about 2 inches View attachment 10536View attachment 10537
Yep exactly. They are tackdrivers. I guess I’ll use them to check zero on my scope.
Can you walk us through the bullet path as it passed through the animal, the damage that it did internally, and the animals distance to recovery? I doubt that it will change my mind about anything but I’d still like to know325gr elr from an elk shot from 186 yards with 170gr bh209.
NOTE........... PARAMOUNT PRO RIFLE
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'.............. went through a bull elk at 186 yards.. sent from a cva paramount pro colorado at 2400fps. Hit ribs in and out and was resting in the off side shoulder blade. 'Can you walk us through the bullet path as it passed through the animal, the damage that it did internally, and the animals distance to recovery? I doubt that it will change my mind about anything but I’d still like to know
I have no clue why you may think my post could have changed your response, nor did I quote you?
I tried them and I continue to hold by my statement, which is easily identified by countless others all over the internet. Do they work for some, certainly they do. Yup, load up a couple pellets, drop a powerdunk down the bore and go whack some big bucks.
Powerdunk "X" must be shot no faster than "A" velocity. Powerdunk "Y" must have at least "B" velocity to function. Then the over inflated price for a plated lead bullet.
If they work for you, by all means continue using them.
Ive wondered about why California wont let you use lead but Utah only wants you to use lead. Seems like they would be on the same page, being nearby.MM, just me but I hate lead! I just wish Idaho would see the light! But you are on to something lead bullets are less expensive.
Performed better than I expected. Thanks for the info'.............. went through a bull elk at 186 yards.. sent from a cva paramount pro colorado at 2400fps. Hit ribs in and out and was resting in the off side shoulder blade. '
Powerbelts are fantastic to huntwtih . . . I would highly suggest hunting
I don't know why Powerbelts get a bad name, Kind of reminds me of the Savage ML10 -ii
and its bad name.
For the record.............. I did not shoot that bullet or elk.I would like to see real hunting scenario results at normal muzzy velocities. Say around 1800 to 1900 mv Encore50a posted a pic of his elr he took an elk with at very high velocity. Thanks for that post. That bullet really dumped all of its energy and only maintained half weight. As you can see in my pics the xpander opened fully at twice the distance with the same load and the elr didn’t open at all in half the distance I like the concept of powerbelts and would like to start shooting them again ,that’s why I was testing the elr ,but I shot an elk with a 295 aero tip a few years ago and I was not impressed. Luckily I shot high back and hit the main artery but the bullet stayed in the bull and barely expanded.
Utah doesn’t much care what we use, but there is a unit here, the Zion unit, that wants you to use non lead ammunition because of the California Condor. I guess they winter there.Ive wondered about why California wont let you use lead but Utah only wants you to use lead. Seems like they would be on the same page, being nearby.
325gr elr from an elk shot from 186 yards with 170gr bh209.
NOTE........... PARAMOUNT PRO RIFLE
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Thats way too much for me too. I have several bullets that open up at 100 yards completely with 71 grains of 777My shoulder hurts just thinking about a 325gr bullet over 170gr BH209.
I personally believe there would be many other better bullet options, w much less powder.
I believe the hunter was using a LR Customs muzzle brake, making 170grsV feel like a puppy.My shoulder hurts just thinking about a 325gr bullet over 170gr BH209.
I personally believe there would be many other better bullet options, w much less powder.
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