It's not turning a clock back. It's all about keeping smokeless muzzleloaders and the information surrounding them free of this other garbage that may, to some, suggest that using smokeless powder in a black powder only gun is doable. Right now custom guns can be deemed smokeless, but none of the store bought guns are custom.
And we do not need to discuss the Nitrofire here. Its a cartidge charged gun that has the bullet and /or sabot pushed down the barrel. Smokeless MUZZLELOADERS are still completely loaded from the muzzle, no form of cartridge involvement anywhere.
Woodman Arms site specifies specifically that anyone who is humoring the idea of shooting smokeless in any of his custom guns, those that take months to make and deliver, MUST contact Mark Woodman directly to have a conversation about doing so. The T/C guns that have been rebarreled and the proper plug installed is a custom gun. Savage, Remington, CVA Scout and Ruger weapons that have been properly converted to be smokeless shooters are no longer simple store bought weapons, but in fact customized to handle smokeless. All this talk about store bought black powder guns being able to handle light smokeless charges is fallacy.
Smokeless means exactly that and is what should be discussed in this unique forum, not maybes or guess what you can do with your black powder only gun. What I have found to be true with those that post in this smokeless forum, they are serious people and take little for granted when it comes to shooting these special guns. I got my Patriot in December, and just shot it for the first time yesterday. Since receiving the gun until yesterday I have had a multitude of conversations with other members who post here in this forum, asking questions on powders and bullets, and some of the ins and outs of shooting smokeless because it is so different from black powder and the subs. Not once, ever, has one of these contacts suggested that I load a light charge of smokeless in my Accura to see if I was going to enjoy shooting smokeless. And that is exactly how this particular forum should be managed.