Who shoots conicals in a T/C with QLA?

[RidgeRebel]

I'm looking for a new muzzleloader and used to have an Encore Prohunter and sold it. Now I think I want another Encore but I want a ML that will shoot conicals well. I have heard alot of people say that T/C rifle will not shoot them very accurately. I,m also thinking about the Bergara barrel made for the Encore, has anybody tried them? How do they fit on the frame?

 

[frontier gander]

look at the CVA Apex. More bang for your buck IMO. + it shoots conicals.

UC here has the Apex, may want to pm him and pick his brain. Careful tho, hes old and fragile 8)

 

[toytruck]

Any TC gun with the QLA will only shoot a saboted bullet with any accuracy. IMO Been there,,, I had a FireHawk,pre QLA, that I sent off to have the QLA installed when there was also a trigger problem. That gun was a conical shooter before I fell for the hype, but not after. It did good with Knight saboted bullets till the Encore came out and I sold the FireHawk. I never could get the .45 Encore to shoot conicals and sold that barrel, the .50 was OK, and I killed a few deer with it, but still not satisfied. Then I tried a White Super 91 and the rest is history. My Encore is sold now pending funds, if that helps any...This is just my experiences and opinion for whatever its worth.

 

[Nimrodder]

TT, I never thought you'd part with the Encore :shock: .

 

[toytruck]

TT, I never thought you'd part with the Encore :shock: .

Thats what the Chief said... :lol: Just got tired of wasting money and time when the Whites..well you know. 8)

 

[Nimrodder]

Yep, I know 8) . Sold my Encore a couple years ago to buy boolits fer the Whites .

 

[frontier gander]

enough of this talk about selling rifles. Its bad enough i got an itch for a .54 sidelock :?

 

[Nimrodder]

Gander, its your fault I'm on a selling spree . I bought one of those Whites you posted 8) .

 

[frontier gander]

:lol: well shoot, i believe those were brand new whites! You should have bought all they had, ive seen used whites go for more than what that place was asking for new ones!

 

[RidgeRebel]

How about the Begara Barrels for the T/C? Anybody have one. The Apex is very nice but the T/C has so many options: stock, barrels, ect.

 

[txhunter58]

If it is a T/C and has a QLA, it is a crap shoot whether or not it will shoot conicals. Nomally, they will shoot powerbelts and Hornady FPB (conicals) well, but not any others reliably.

I have only had an Omega, but that is the case for this barrel with a QLA.

If Bergara is making barrels for the Encore, I haven't heard about it. From what I understand, they make the Apex barrel (with a QLA) and it is reported to shoot conicals well.

 

[Busta]

Bergara has been making Encore barrels for a couple years, I don't have one but have heard good reports about them. Bergara uses a very short false muzzle (approx 3/8" or so) versus the T/C's 1" long QLA.

I too, would choose the CVA Apex over the T/C Encore. But don't take my word for it, handle them both in a side by side comparison. Be prepared to put your bias aside, I had to. :wink: Use that extra money you save for a scope and rings.

If you REALLY want to shoot conicals, get a White or a Knight!

 

[Underclocked]

This is the only group I've fired with the Apex using heavy conicals so far. I had only sized a very few just to see if they would shoot well. Well enough!

 

[RidgeRebel]

After looking around I think I want a Knight Disc Extreme but where can I find one? Knight is not making rifle anymore. I will check out the Apex also but again where can I find one? Nobody around here has one. How much are the Apex selling for? I would want stainless with black stock.
Thanks for all your input guys.

 

[txhunter58]

I bought a Knight long range hunter when they went on clearance. That is basically an extreme with a different barrel and stock.

I use BH 209 and FPBs with the bare primer set up and it shoots great. Haven't tried any other conicals.

 

[Nimrodder]

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... s_id/54072

Here's a CVA Accura SS

 

[frontier gander]

Apex,
http://www.cva.com/rifles-apexml.html

With the Accura, I preferred the thumbhole version. I have big hands and long skinny fingers and the thumbhole just felt comfortable for me.

 

[Nimrodder]

I couldn't find any Apex's in stock. Found frames and barrels but no complete rifles. Go figure.

 

[Lee 9]

I have shot Sabortooth Power Belts Hornady FPB and the Thor in 3 of my TC's all shot well; I tried the 460 gr I can not remember if it was a BS or a No Excuses just to see what one of them big chucks felt like and with the 80 gr load with a cornmeal amount of equal volume and a wad it shot a two inch group at 100yds which I considered alright as I only tried one load and shot only 5 shots. It kind of bucked a bit.
The FPB shoots 1/2 inch groups from time to time for me out of my new Endeavor, I think it would do it all the time except for operator error.

 

[Underclocked]

My Apex came from http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GCR4010S and that is the price I paid (plus shipping). Grouse suggested the Cabela's in Wheeling (WV??) has three ss/black in stock. (for what it's worth, I'm doubtful).