Do ML crowns ever get damaged?

[tpcollins]

I know the crown at the end of the muzzle is really important for bench shooters but I was wondering do ML crowns ever see that much damaged since they are loaded and sometimes cleaned with a ramrod from the muzzle end? I see on the newer T/C's they have the QLA feature which puts the crown further down the barrel with less of a chance of the ramrod wearing on it. Just wondering if this has much of an affect on poor groups sometimes? Thanks.

 

[shooter44n45]

This is why you use rods and jags of softer material than your barrel.

 

[k]

i do'nt shoot as much as alot of these folks but put about 300-500rnds. yr.down range.unless i'm hunting my range rods ALLWAYS have a bore guide on them.they can't hurt and they only cost about $3...........karl

 

[tpcollins]

Thanks for the replies, but I was more interested in whether the crowns actually do get damaged - not using preventative measures to avoid it. Thanks.

 

[paia]

Yes, ML crowns can get damaged and worn. A friend's percussion target rifle has over 12,000 rds through it over the last 20+ years and I think he has recrowned it twice to bring back the kind of accuracy he wants, but he is very picky.

For my ML's, I always use a muzzle guide on my range rods and have not had any problems. I have one Omega from the first year they came out (2002 or 2003?) and it has over 2000 rds through it and is as accurate today as the day I bought it.

I use a muzzle guide for cleaning my lever guns from the muzzle too.

 

[Lee 9]

The ramrod damage is bad if a protective bushing or sleeve is not used. Any ramrod will damage the end off the bore at the crown eventually if a bushing is not used; the worst of them is the fiberglass ramrod that was popular for a while I re-crowned some that had the rifling cut away so bad you could see the damage at a glance. Any scratch or deformation in the button area can cause the gun to shoot erratically as far as accuracy is concerned.

 

[shooter44n45]

The ramrod damage is bad if a protective bushing or sleeve is not used. Any ramrod will damage the end off the bore at the crown eventually if a bushing is not used; the worst of them is the fiberglass ramrod that was popular for a while I re-crowned some that had the rifling cut away so bad you could see the damage at a glance. Any scratch or deformation in the button area can cause the gun to shoot erratically as far as accuracy is concerned.

Where do you get ML bore guides?

 

[OptimaAndy]

you should be able to get them at any good sporting goods store or gun shop. If nothing local try MidwayUSA online.

 

[Nimrodder]

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... =000307158

http://www.cainsoutdoor.com/shop/item.asp?item=18699

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?p ... ber=356548

Here's some bore guides 8) .

 

[shooter44n45]

Thanks

 

[tpcollins]

For those that always use a bore guide to clean their muzzleloaders, do you also use the bore guide when you load and seat a bullet?

 

[k]

yep

 

[Lee 9]

Always at the range and for the first shot hunting which is loaded at home.

 

[Old No7]

ML Bore Guides

Here's a tip that has helped me... 8)

My T/C Range Rod has a bore guide on it, and 2 inches back from the jag I wrapped enough black electrical tape that there's no way the guide can slip off...

Net result = every shot at the range and the 1st one loaded before hunting will always have the bore guide used. And then there's all the wipes & swipes made while cleaning -- while I always do those from the breech end, the bore guide centers the rod in the back of the barrel too.

Tight groups,

Old No7