A Good Range Day.

[cur_dog]

Shot the Disc Elite this weekend. Wow, is there a bullet this gun does not like?

I shot 13, 3 shot groups. All were at 50 yards using 100 grains loose T7 and Win 209 primers, 3x9x40 Swift Scope(thanks Chuck). I shot Powerbelts(348), Platinum Tips(260), Partition Golds(260), Gold Dots(250),
Shockwaves(200 and 250), Hunterman's bullets(HP and Blunt 280 gr.), Deadcenters(220), Extremes(300), Sabertooths(?), Speer soft points(.429 240 and 270). I know this was at 50 yards but for a beginner I was real happy. Worse group was 1 1/2" MOA. The best were 1/2" MOA. The best were the 200 Shockwaves, Partition golds 260 and Hunterman's 280 Mag tip. Mark makes some nice boolets! I think all these groupss could be better.

I used Windex with Ammonia to swab between shots followed by 2 dry patches(thanks Sabotloader). I want every shot to be like shooting the first shot on a clean barrel. trying to not do a fouling shot. Think this is going to work.

Looking at some digital cameras so I hope to start posting pics of the targets and then some hogs soon.

Question, If a group is 1 1/2 inches @ 50 yards does that make it a 3" plus group @ 100 yards?

 

[Grouse]

The Knight Disc Elite just shoots a variety of bullets very well. Better then any ML i ever owned. You got yourself a keeper for sure. 8)

 

[Doohan]

Question, If a group is 1 1/2 inches @ 50 yards does that make it a 3" plus group @ 100 yards?

More than likely -

 

[cur_dog]

Yes I think it's a keeper too! I plan on shooting 100 yards next time. Just kind of taking it in steps so i can isolate any problems as I go. It was a lot of fun shooting all diff kinds of bullets. Thought it was interesting that all 13 groups had a diff POI. None were really the same. It was nice just shooting and not messing with the scope.

So far, I have not had any problems with the crud ring I have read so much about. Is this something that comes and goes with diff powder runs?

 

[Wolf_River_Mike]

If a group is 1 1/2 inches @ 50 yards does that make it a 3" plus group @ 100 yards?

assuming no wind Sounds like a dead deer to me.

 

[Underclocked]

I wouldn't expect you to have crud ring issues because of the swabbing you are doing. And some rifle/powder combinations just don't seem to develop the ring.

 

[cur_dog]

UC, It would be nice if that is the case with mine.

 

[Admin]

Knights with the FPjs don't really develop a crud ring. At least none of the ones I've had have done it. This is 2 Extremes and 2 plunger guns and one TK-2000 (plunger also).

 

[Hunt 4 Bucks]

Knights with the FPjs don't really develop a crud ring

My Elite and XT do not either.

Patrick, isn't Knights new domed plug suppose to help also. I have not got one yet, so I can't say for sure.

 

[cur_dog]

I have used both, this weekend I used the original. I guess I'm different but I like the original better. Could not tell any diff with accuracy. The reason I do not like the new plug is the hole is way to small, get fouled really easy IMO and I it seperates my primers, almost domes them. Also, no diff in crud ring, again IMO

 

[Admin]

Patrick, isn't Knights new domed plug suppose to help also. I have not got one yet, so I can't say for sure.

No it's for blowback only.

The reason I do not like the new plug is the hole is way to small, get fouled really easy IMO and I it seperates my primers, almost domes them. Also, no diff in crud ring, again IMO

Really? Which primers are you using?

 

[Spitpatch]

Cur....glad you finally got the chance to shoot the 200 Shockwaves. I knew they would be great! Now try the 245 Barnes Spitfires.
Good shootin'

 

[cur_dog]

Patrick, I'm shooting the Win 209 primers. IMO I think it has to do with the small opening in the breech plug. I do not notice it when i used the original breach plug. I read some where else that someone else had the same problem. I'm going to keep using both plug as I test. When I finish this box of Win primers I was going to try the Rem. Clean bore primers.

Thanks Spit, the 200 shockwaves have shot great all three times i have shot them. The spitfires ar eon the "list"

 

[big6x6]

WAY to GO CUR! Keep shooting and keep giving us a report! 8)

 

[Admin]

Patrick, I'm shooting the Win 209 primers. IMO I think it has to do with the small opening in the breech plug. I do not notice it when i used the original breach plug. I read some where else that someone else had the same problem. I'm going to keep using both plug as I test. When I finish this box of Win primers I was going to try the Rem. Clean bore primers.

That's odd. That's what I'm using. :? Did you happen to check and see if you had metal shavings in the hole? I did in both of the ones I recieved. Maybe there's a stoppage?

 

[cur_dog]

I was wondering that too. I was thinking about drilling the hole just a little bigger. That would also help in cleaning it. Think it would hurt the purpose of the domed plug if I made the hole a little bigger?

Side question, are the sabots that come with the Platinum tips HPH-12 or 24's?

 

[Admin]

I don't know if drilling it our more would hurt it or not. I doubt it though. I'll let you know after I shoot the one I modified. One of mine got drilled out to 1/16th the other day. I couldn't find the right bit to clean it out and I drilled it out the the smallest bit I could find. If you try it, don't drill out the flash hole.

HPH24's I believe. Mine shoots best with HPH 12's but it's a bit harder to load.

 

[cur_dog]

okay, dumb question on my part but which end is the flash end?
Your not drilling out the entire length of the hole?

I like the early results I'm having with the Win PT. I know you like them and Chuck does too. I bought 2 boxes. Heard they are going to stop making them.

 

[Admin]

That's the really small hole in the barrel end. You do not want to drill it all the way through. What I did was use a .05" allen wrench (which fits the small hole) and get the depth to the flash hole. Then I marked the bit at the depth I wanted to stop. I think there's 3/16" of flash hole in the end of the plug.

They're still making the platinum tips, they're just not going to sell them for muzzleloaders anymore. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[cur_dog]

Thanks, I'll look at that when i get home.

Midway has boxes of 30 w/sabots for 18.40 I think.