Guys.. I could not get the gun to group at all today...I'm talkin' no consistency anywhere with any bullet. Last year I hunted with 2t7 pellets and a 265gr fusion. The load shot exceptionaly well 1" or so as did the shockwaves I had used before. I have one sneaking hunch.... The powder is not new...left over last year stuff and the primers are a bunch that I have had jacketed since last season also. I store my stuff reasonably well and didn't think it would be comprimised. The reason I questioned the powder was because everthing shot low...like 3" low consistently. I even shot a 3 pellet load under a lighter (250 vs 265) shockwave. Still low. The heavier charge didn't really behave any differently other than really crudding up the gun. So much in fact that I ripped the threaded insert out of my ram rod when I was swabbing the gun. It was probably for the better though..it made me stop shooting for the day!!
Bad range day with the elite....suggestions?
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sounds like dirty barrel, or loose scope, or bad scope but dirty barrel is your best bet
I don't think it's the scope....I checked the rings and mounts a-ok
The barrel was clean...and oil free. It's the way I always shoot...it usually works very well with this gun. I windex swabbed between shots as I always do. It did not group per se' just kinda' threw everything low and a little left. The inconsisitent or non exisitent grouping is what kept me from making any type of scope adjustments.
After a complete teardown and cleaning I am pretty sure it was the powder. There seemed to be a lot of unburnt powder (actually grey) on and around the breechplug. This was not any kind of normal 777 crud. It was obvious this powder had never ignited. Like I said before, I have never had a problem with virtually any bullet not shooting well in this gun. It just threw me for a loop. I actually kinda' feel better now that I think I know what the problem may have been. I'm gonna' get some new powder and primers and give er' a go again next chance I get.
The barrel was clean...and oil free. It's the way I always shoot...it usually works very well with this gun. I windex swabbed between shots as I always do. It did not group per se' just kinda' threw everything low and a little left. The inconsisitent or non exisitent grouping is what kept me from making any type of scope adjustments.
After a complete teardown and cleaning I am pretty sure it was the powder. There seemed to be a lot of unburnt powder (actually grey) on and around the breechplug. This was not any kind of normal 777 crud. It was obvious this powder had never ignited. Like I said before, I have never had a problem with virtually any bullet not shooting well in this gun. It just threw me for a loop. I actually kinda' feel better now that I think I know what the problem may have been. I'm gonna' get some new powder and primers and give er' a go again next chance I get.
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I've always felt that T-7 degrades over time. Try fresh powder.
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I have shot my Long Range Hunter with both the FPJ and the Non-FPJ breach plug set-ups and BH209.I can't seem to see any difference in the way they shoot.What I do notice ALOT is that the Bare 209 Non-FPJ set-up is there is hardly any blowback from the primer.The FPJ was terrible with the blowback.I forgot,I am using CCI 209M primers,Fed 209A's also work well.
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tndeer,
You are on the right track. I use a 1/4" drive Deep socket and 6"extension to install and remove mine. I forget the size I am using, (I'm thinking it was 11 mm but not sure) I can check when I get home. I used the metric just because I had a spare loose socket in my box. Use Federal 209 a primers and you will not have any problem with the bh209 ignition. You can use CCI 209 mag too if you want too. I am also still working with a Disc Elite 50 cal. I found that standard CCI, and Winchesters gave me hangfires. Fed209a and CCI are hotter. I ran out of the Fed 209A's last weekend and started to use some CCI 209 mag's. I suspect that they might actually be too hot for mine. After the switch I had some fliers that were not there before. I am shooting the Knight/Barnes 250TMZ with Blue EZ-load sabot and that sabot may also be part of the flier problem. I have some of the old Yellow Sabots coming from knight. Unfortuantly this weekend might be a wash out for me, with heavy rain expected Saturday and very heavy Wind on Sunday as a cold front moves in.
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ShawnT
You are on the right track. I use a 1/4" drive Deep socket and 6"extension to install and remove mine. I forget the size I am using, (I'm thinking it was 11 mm but not sure) I can check when I get home. I used the metric just because I had a spare loose socket in my box. Use Federal 209 a primers and you will not have any problem with the bh209 ignition. You can use CCI 209 mag too if you want too. I am also still working with a Disc Elite 50 cal. I found that standard CCI, and Winchesters gave me hangfires. Fed209a and CCI are hotter. I ran out of the Fed 209A's last weekend and started to use some CCI 209 mag's. I suspect that they might actually be too hot for mine. After the switch I had some fliers that were not there before. I am shooting the Knight/Barnes 250TMZ with Blue EZ-load sabot and that sabot may also be part of the flier problem. I have some of the old Yellow Sabots coming from knight. Unfortuantly this weekend might be a wash out for me, with heavy rain expected Saturday and very heavy Wind on Sunday as a cold front moves in.
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