This is just my opinion, and opinion only. I would go so far as to say the TC of yesteryear is going out the window. They have to be one of the casualties of this economy. Their products, while top shelf, are by and large too high priced for people pinching pennies. Lets face it,$600.00 for a Hawken flinter that has had zero upgrades or options during it's existance is a little out of hand. This being the rifle that put TC on the map,or at least in conjunction with the Renegade. Their flagship so to speak,made muzzleloading a household word. Unfortunatly, I fear it has come to an end. Their prices have exceeded what the market will bear, so it's crunch time for TC. I hope they pull it out of the fire, but with all the layoffs and closings nationwide, I have my doubts. Hmmm,school cloths,food, gasoline, mortgage payment,or new muzzleloader. Guess who is going to loose. I can't give away my custom calls at the moment. Another non-essential product hitting the skids. I shudder to think where it will all end.