Nosler HG vs XTP help

[billyc49ca]

Trying to decide between these 2 bullets. I shoot an Omega z5 with 2 50g Pyro pellets with win T7 primers. I used the hornady low drag sabots and 250gr sst last years but would like to switch to one of these bullets.
Shots will range anywhere from 10yds out to 175yds. I was looking at the 300gr Xtp or the 260 nosler partition. My local gun store doesn't have any bulk sabots so I will be shooting the supplied sabots with either bullet.
Ideally I'm looking for the hard hitting with pass thru as well as maintaing accuracy.

Thanks
Bill

 

[frontier gander]

i'd have to go with the Nosler, its a better built bullet than the XTP.

 

[sabotloader]

billyc49ca

I was looking at the 300gr Xtp or the 260 nosler partition. My local gun store doesn't have any bulk sabots so I will be shooting the supplied sabots with either bullet.

IMO - there is not comparison... the Nosler is a great bullet and designed to function better.

I have used the Nosler for umteen years. I use the 260 on deer and the 300 on elk.

There is a problem... Nosler has opted not to build the HG partition bullets this year and maybe into the future. There is an alternative - the .458/300 grain Nosler Partition. It is a rifle bullet built for the 45-70, and they will contiune to make that.

The sabot that comes with the .451/260 grain sabot is a MMP HPH-24. This is a slightly thicker sabot that the 'Low Drag' but the 260 is slightly smaller than the .452 SST/SW. But even then sabots are available online and you would have no trouble getting them.

Here is a recovered 260 Nosler.

Other alternatives....

Barnes offers a great bullet - you will just have to sort through what you migh want. i am not much of a fan of Barnes and I do not know enough about their bullets to make a good recommnedation.

http://www.barnesbullets.com/

And a second alternative is a new brass bullet that is offered by Lehigh Manufacturing. The operating theory behind a Lehigh is completely different than the conventional expansion theory. The theory of these bullets comes from Europe - Germany to be more specific.

http://lehighbullets.com/

Take a look at the .452/250 grain bullet, he also makes a .451 for really tight bores.

I shot a nice whitetail buck last week with a .458/275 grain Lehigh, but really can not tell you anything conclusive about the operation of the bullet other than the buck dropped dead in his tracks.... but where I hit him just about any bullet would have cause that.

http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB ... hp?t=14467

 

[billyc49ca]

What kind of bullet trajectory can i expect using 2 50g pyro pellets and the nosler 260gr. If i sighted in at 2 inches high at 100yds where would I be at 150yds, 200yds?

 

[Sam208]

Id pick the nosler any day That is what i shoot and they work great you wont be dispointed.


sam

 

[SteveB]

Unless you have some Noslers, you won't be trying them.

 

[sabotloader]

Used the wrong picture last time here is the correct one...

Another bullet should not overlook is the Speer .452/300 grain Gold Dot or even the .452/250 Gold Dot.

 

[Sam208]

I dont really know why a nosler. 45 sporting pistol bullet wouldnt work

has anybody ever use these bullet for deer they are 250 grain


sam

 

[TJJ]

Either of the mentioned bullets will serve you well. The xtp line of bullets have likely taken more deer than any other single projectile. A couple months back, there was a great sale on the nosler partitions. I stocked up on a lifetime supply of hunting bullets at that time. Sabotloaders photos tell the tail. Cost was the biggest reason I never purchased the noslers in the past.

 

[billyc49ca]

Picked up some Nosler HG sabots 260 gr today. Took them to the range and I'm impressed with the accuracy. Got a 1inch group with 2pyro pellets and triple seven primers. Sighted in 2 inches high at 100. Can't wait to see how these perform on a whitetail. Anyone know where abouts I'll be at 160 yds and 175ydz?

 

[billyc49ca]

Well the Nosler 260 sure did the job for me. Ranged a doe at 177 yards. Hit it right through the heart. Boy did this bullet expand. Complete pass thru. This will be the only bullet I use in my ml. Got to head to the local store and stock up.

 

[sabotloader]

billyc49ca

Boy did this bullet expand. Complete pass thru.

Been there often - done that often...

The hard part is to get folks to really believe what the internals look like even though the bullet did not hit them all...

I have always maintained the you have to cause enough internal shock to the system to over-ride the flight response of the animal...

How far did the doe go before it crashed?

 

[Franksauto]

SteveB, some shops still have 260 Noslers left in stock. I should pick up more before they are all gone!

 

[Hulions]

Still dont understand why ther are discontinuing the Nosler. Do you guys know of any body that still has them for a good price.

 

[Bucker]

nosler

Well the Nosler 260 sure did the job for me. Ranged a doe at 177 yards. Hit it right through the heart. Boy did this bullet expand. Complete pass thru. This will be the only bullet I use in my ml. Got to head to the local store and stock up.

What load and gun you shooting that at? Also where was your scope set at. I don't know about other guys but that is an impressive shot! Little more detail please.

 

[Franksauto]

Still dont understand why ther are discontinuing the Nosler. Do you guys know of any body that still has them for a good price.

Cabelas still has them but they're not cheap. Over $1 each after shipping without sabots.
Here's the link.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... ISO-8859-1

 

[billyc49ca]

Re: nosler

Well the Nosler 260 sure did the job for me. Ranged a doe at 177 yards. Hit it right through the heart. Boy did this bullet expand. Complete pass thru. This will be the only bullet I use in my ml. Got to head to the local store and stock up.

What load and gun you shooting that at? Also where was your scope set at. I don't know about other guys but that is an impressive shot! Little more detail please.

Shooting a TC Omega with 100 gr of pyro. Had my scope set at 2 inches high at 100.

Ya the amount of internal shock was amazing. She piled up less then 20 yards from where she was shot. I think the only way she got 20 yards was due to the fact she went downhill

 

[SteveB]

Cabelas still has them but they're not cheap. Over $1 each after shipping without sabots.

That is actually what the going price was.
Same price as most of the higher quality bullets.

 

[jsteurrys]

Beikirch's in East Rochester, NY has the 260s in Winchester packaging for $7.00 a 10 pack. They had a couple of cases at those prices. They ship UPS. Their phone # is 585-248-3660. They have no more 300s as I bought them all.

 

[Franksauto]

Cabelas still has them but they're not cheap. Over $1 each after shipping without sabots.

That is actually what the going price was.
Same price as most of the higher quality bullets.

Yea, I know. I cant find any on clearance but they do still have them if you need them. I would be interested in a deal if one comes up, just havent found one yet.