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If I figure this out, I"ll paste the details next [/img] Hope these show up. A background. Same old 54 Renegade I started with and got tons of help with. Only to replace the barrel with a Green Mountain. 1x28 twist 54. Had this one microslik treated by Fit 4 Duty and cerratcoated on the...

Open to opinions. Long story but a new Green Mountain barrel on the Renegade. Much better groups now, not what I want but have only shot it about 2 hours so far. With BP(which was not grouping as good as 777) I had instant ignition. With 777 which groups much better I can hear the cap go off...

I'm not in a good mood right now. GM barrels are not the copy of TC taht I thought. Cannot transfer parts like I wanted but I can solve the sights and swivels issue. Problem is now its hooked onto my tang and bedded in place, the damn hammer is not far enough forward for me to even shoot it...

Transferred from the newbie section to this one in hopes of more replies. Thanks, Jeff Hi Just so that I feel much better about my rifle and upcoming elk hunt I can get 54 balls into 2 inches at 100. I was hoping to have a 200 yard gun if needed. Not sure about a ball at 200 though. Anyway...

Hi All I drop in from time to time trying to learn from ya'll and appreciate every bit of info as I tweak... Anyway I had my Renegade barrel coated with Micro Slik from Fit 4 Duty coatings. Because I wanted to prevent rust in bad situations. Like being on a backpack hunt and not having to...

Hi Just so that I feel much better about my rifle and upcoming elk hunt I can get 54 balls into 2 inches at 100. I was hoping to have a 200 yard gun if needed. Not sure about a ball at 200 though. Anyway I've shot short REAL, long REAL, TC maxi hunters and maxi balls, and something that is a...

Hi - moved this from the newbie column to here hoping for extra help maybe? Also in the newbie column I have a question about REAL bullets being almost impossible to start in my 54 Renegade. Help there is appreciated also. About to start seriously messing with my 54 Renegade and bullet tests...

Hi Question #2 of the night. I have a bunch of REAL bullets for my Renegade 54. Fairly easy to get into the bore till the very last lube groove. Then its horrible. I have to tap the short starter with a mallet etc... but once started go down the bore like all the others. Just curious as to...

Hi About to start seriously messing with my 54 Renegade and bullet tests. I have overpowder wads I'll be using with any heavy bullet and 100 grains or more of powder. What is the correct way to use them? And how to use them in a speed loader? Thanks, Jeff

If it aint' fixed dont' broke it or something to that degree. I've talked to Fit4Duty on their internal barrel coating a few times. Talked with some folks at AMU Fort Benning that had some 45s done. I know one 1000 yard shooter thats having his barrel done. Last time I talked to Doug he says...

Sorry, I put this under the new to MZ column and got no nibbles. I see a bunch of folks relating their renegades here. So I was in the wrong area. Duh. Anyway-- can I get a 4 inch 200 yard group out of my 54 Renegade with conicals like the REAL? Or what can I expect actually? Thanks, Jeff

Hi All I skipped this part too because I was in a hurry and wanted answers. Anyway an intro. I am 41 and have been mostly a bowhunter and iron sight competitive highpower rifle shooter. In Rifle I have managed the highest classification possible with iron sights out to 1000 yards. Doesn't...

Can folks tell me the difference between the #11 mag percussion caps and going to a musket cap on a sidelock. Are the 11s as hot as the musket caps or should I still be thinking that a musket cap and nipple are the better setup on my Renegade 54? Thanks, Jeff

Hi Still working with my factory TC Renegade 54. Having not fired a shot-- I keep noticing green mountain barrels. Should I ditch the factory tube and get a GM barrel before I go any further? I"m about to send the factory tube off to have the barrel coated with an anti fouling/anti...

Okay, I've bugged ya'll to death and decided to use real black powder for my 54 Renegade, especially since I have a LOT of 2F. But I keep seeing this and that in the way of new powders and may not be able to resist Shockeys gold powder. Question is if I do something dumb and buy more powder to...

Hello all again: I've yet to shoot my Renegade. I have a Hawken in 45 that I tinkered with for a long time to shoot around 2 inches at 100 IIRC. Whats the best accuracy I can expect out of my 54 Renegade. I'm a competitive highpower shooter and large groups don't make me happy and I tend to...

Bullets in hand. Have not weighed yet. 54 cal one lighter/shorter than the other can of them. No lube at all. SO, I'm at the point of bore butter or buy something better. I'd like to know the best lube to start with. I have the bore butter but why start wrong.... Thanks, Jeff

Question for my nephew that will be going with me on our first MZ elk hunt this fall. He has a 209 ignition system in place. The problem is that the primers often take pliers and an awl to get back out of the system once fired. And a lot of the time they are so loose they'll fall out IE the...

Hi All I have lots of experience in shooting and reloading. Not that much in MZ. Have decided to take an old 54 Renegade on an elk hunt. I've decided to use real black power with a musket cap. And cast conicals with a wonder wad as over powder. Sounds like my mind is made up but I"m open...