Is there any difference between the two? Cabela's has a pretty good rating on both, 4.7 of 124 reviews for the Nikon and 4.7 of 45 reviews for the Leupold. I have a Leupold VX-3 B&C reticle in a 4.5-14x40 and really like it. But the Nikon was designed for the 50 cal Omega. Which I want to get. Thanks.
Leupold Ultimate Slam VS Nikon Omega vs Leatherwood/Hi-Lux
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I am a big Leupold fan and have been for 30 years--great scopes, great service and made here.
I have been shooting a 3-9X Ultimate Slam on my Omega for about a year now and really like it. If you do a search with the key word "slam" or "ultimate slam" you should find some info.
I have been shooting a 3-9X Ultimate Slam on my Omega for about a year now and really like it. If you do a search with the key word "slam" or "ultimate slam" you should find some info.
I really like the SS Omega w/ the grey laminate wood . If I get the silver Ultimate Slam there should be no problem getting some silver hardware to match right? I see the bases and the 1" rings in my catalogs. Is a one-piece better than a two-piece base? Sorry bout all the dumb questions. I had the gun shop where I bought em set up my other 300 win mag rifle and scope and want this to look just as good. Thank you.
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LIke the Leupold Ultimate slam. Gives you the option of setting for a 100 gr. powder charge or a 150 gr. powder charge
I think both are quality optics with good eye relief for the ML user. I personally liked the reticle of the Ultimateslam better than the Nikon as I thought the Nikon circles were crowded. I ended up with the US and have loved it both at the range and in the field. You just have to look through both and see which you like the best.
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Cabelas has the Nikon on sale last time I checked. I have the Omega with the BDC and it has performed great. I have only shot it out to 150 yards so far and it was right on. In one of my hunting magazines, the Nikon scope with the BDC for rifles (high powered) got a great review. Some do not like the circles for aiming points but I do! They are easy to see and give you the option of different aiming points instead of just one dot for a particular yardage. You can use the top, center, or bottom of the circle. It also works well in low light conditions.
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One common complaint I read about the Nikon Omega is the lack of light gathering during low light conditions. That is one thing I would be concerned about. Even some of the people that give it a good rating mention the fact that it is not easy to pick up targets early or late in the day.
I had my mind set last year when I bought my Genesis ML that I was going to mount the Nikon Omega on it since I had heard so much about the Nikons. So, I made the trip down to the local Bass Pro and told them I wanted to check out the Omega scope. The guy tells me that once I look through Nikon glass I'll never own anything else. So I hold it up look through it and HATED it. Now I'm not bashing Nikon because I have looked through some of their other scopes and loved them. But I think the Omega needs alot of work. I especially didn't care for the eye relief or how crowded the circles were in the scope. I ended up walking out with a 3x9x40 Bushnell Trophy.
On my new Accura I definately plan on checking out the Leupold along with a Burris and Mueller.
On my new Accura I definately plan on checking out the Leupold along with a Burris and Mueller.
As much as I like my Leupold VX-3 B&C w/ Ballistics Aiming System I think I'm gonna try this http://hpmuzzleloading.com/SpecialOpportunity. MidwayUSA has em for $139. I can't find the Ultimate Slam for less than $239. I've read about some excellent customer service from them. My concerns are the eye relief. I highly doubt I'll be using the max power so 3"(+) should be plenty.
I don't know what's a matter w/ the link but they have a review of the Leatherwood/Hi-Lux Optics Offers Special Muzzleloader Hunting Scope here http://hpmuzzleloading.com/. here is the manufacture web-site http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/index. ... &Itemid=56. Soory bout that.
I don't know what's a matter w/ the link but they have a review of the Leatherwood/Hi-Lux Optics Offers Special Muzzleloader Hunting Scope here http://hpmuzzleloading.com/. here is the manufacture web-site http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/index. ... &Itemid=56. Soory bout that.
Man, Toby Bridges sure is high on that Leatherwood/Hi-Lux ML scope. He replied to my e-mail with nothing but goods things to say about it. I'm just confused as to why no crosshairs for 50 and 150 yards. The manufacturer says it works best w/ the 260 or 300 grain Harvester Scorpion bullets. Still undecided.
Well, I'm going to give the Leatherwood/Hi-Lux TB-ML 3-9x44 a try. With all the "Five Star" reviews on MidwayUSA, the excellent customer service from posts on this site and at 1/2 the price of the others, it should fit my needs. Toby Bridges gave me a contact person/number to order directly from Hi-Lux. Thanks for everyones help.
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Tankhead said:
I was going to get that one for my GMB54 but i really want a bit more eye relief.
Im probably going to have a smith make picatinny rail and mount it "scout" style. Mount it to the front scope mount and the rear sight holes.
I got a long eye relief pistol scope laying around
I think I remember seeing that in one of "your threads". But besides the Omega most of the scopes I was looking at didn't really offer that much more eye relief. Base on your experience what do you think should be the optimum amount of eye relief for a ML?
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Tankhead said:
It not just a ML its the purpose.
I want one on the GMB for very fast short range target acquisition. Long eye reliefs mounted scout style are good for this. At least i like them and so did Jeff Cooper.
On the Omega that TB Hilux sounds perfect depending on your hunting style. Stalking it might not be the best but should be fine for anything else.
My Win Apex has a 3x9x40 and its fine for an all around option.
My Ovation has a halo type red dot mounted to the rear site and front scope holes. Very fast on target 50yard gun and a scope really gets in the way of the odd 209 firing pin system.
My Accura has a 4x16x40 IR with focus. I use it for scoping one of my larger fields and long range fun shooting at steel plates/targets.
Hopefully kill a bunch of yotes with it soon too. :lol:
There really isnt a best yet that ive seen but some of the compact variables TC used to make were close IMO.
I prefer 4-5.5" of eye relief depending on length of pull and all around purpose ML.
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GM54-120 said:
With a properly mounted scope featuring a good eye box there is absolutely no need more than 4" of eye relief. Now obviously if the scope is not mounted properly or the scope features a very poor eye box, (think Bushnell Elites here), then you may need as much as a 5". However, that is a function of poor quality, not a function of necessary eye relief.
The factor most new scope buyers don't realize when getting sucked into the hype of ultra-long eye relief scopes, (over 4+"), is that like everything else in this world you don't get anything for free! That unnecessarily long eye relief costs you the loss of other desirable optical qualities one way or another.
Moral of the story, there is a reason the entire line of Leopold scopes and Zeiss Conquest scopes all feature eye relief in the 3.5"-4" range. Very simply, that is the optimal amount of eye relief for providing plenty of clearance for the shooters using Slugs guns, MZ's and even large bore rifles, without the negative effects of lost optical quality that result from leaving excessive eye relief in a scope for the primary purpose of being able to market a large eye relief number to a less than knowledgeable novice scope buyer that does not even realize that degree of eye relief is not necessary in the first place.
JC
